NH: Unioneers assault ex-Paul staffer cameraman
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Sponsor: http://RidleyReport.com - Things get physical when former Ron Paul staffer Brinck Slattery and a videographer try to do interview at Fed congresscritter's event in New Hampshire. Here's the video they shot and edited, start to finish. With regard to labor law issues under debate...note that one of the key gripes the union folks have is that employers might have "access" to their own employees.
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Strong unions are a cornerstone of the middle classes.
Libertarian economics will destroy the middle classes.
I think unions are an absolute necessity (as is government) but it's obvious that new leadership is in order, for both.
maybe we have different meanings for the words 'absolute' and 'necessity'...
I'm not talking about the government tying your shoes for you. I'm talking about the government cultivating an environment in which everyone (who wants them) has shoes. Or to use your even better analogy, dinner.
I stand by my statement that government is an absolute necessity.
Unless you don't mind an existence that is nasty, brutish, and short.
it all depends on what people want. and most people don't have a fucking clue what they want. they just think whatever they're told, really. so since you don't know how to live the way humans were made to, you imagine it's impossible for anyone.
before govt and industry, people lived and actually PROTECTED the earth, instead of cutting the ground from under their own feet.
'escape the slave-ocracy of our gadgetopia.'
So I take it you're moving to Lancaster PA to live amongst the Amish then? They seem to enjoy a simple, beautiful and free existence outside the "slave-ocracy of our gadgetopia."
Although they will shun you if you mess up.
You almost seem to be a proponent of egalitarianism. Which I would think is quite at odds with libertarianism. Correct me if I'm wrong.
love the amish, but it's not for me. religion is fucking stupid.
Egalitarianism is absolutely not at odds with libertarianism...it might be at odds with objectivism, but not libertarianism.
and i'm not saying one has to live as if advancements were never made, just to be smarter about it. i know, i'm asking too much...
You could say that an egalitarian society balances (or restricts) individual liberties to promote the welfare of the collective group.
Intrepgun sums up libertarianism pretty well (although he is a reluctant libertarian.) "I'm a proponent of myself. I take care of myself and my interests."
Isn't this in opposition to egalitarianism?
Isn't this in opposition to egalitarianism?" --
No. Firstly because collectivists societies tend to beget more misery. Secondly because most people are made happy by helping others (usually their families first and then others) and a free society better enables them to do this. In socialistic societies, the responsibility for caring for one's family and one's neighbors gives way to the collectivist idea that it's someone else's responsibility.
When I say "the state" I actually mean people.
I don't think that is true. A recent University of Michigan study found socialist Denmark to be the "happiest" country in the world. The US was 16th (I'm surprised it was that high.)
I personally believe things like health care and
I'm just telling you that I have had arguments with militant libertarians who believe that violence against the state is an act of self defense.
They may be government-created "rights" (i.e., privileges), but there's no such thing as an inherent positive right. Positive rights necessitate the destruction of negative rights.
I'd still like an answer to my point about egalitarianism being harmed in collectivist societies because they harm personal responsibility.
As far as your question about egalitarianism being harmed by collectivism...maybe so. I won't say that to some extent it isn't. Nothings perfect.
But I still fail to see the relationship between egalitarianism and libertarianism (other than that they're polar opposites.)
They only do so when one misunderstands the meanings of what rights are and how they function. True rights are always defensive and therefore my rights never harm yours.
"But I still fail to see the relationship between egalitarianism and libertarianism (other than that they're polar opposites.)" --
I think I've shown that's not true, so I'll agree to disagree.